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@AbbieNormal what is the size of the userbase?

@AbbieNormal i've seen arguments for and against lisp's syntax since the early 1990s, so i am familiar with why people aren't jumping on the guile bandwagon. python looks like what they know, lisp doesn't.

@AbbieNormal what's clojure's userbase compared with scala or kotlin? wanna take a guess?

also, a commercial company backs clojure's development. who backs guile's?

@AbbieNormal what is the failure? syntax? and, why do you care about it if it's a failure (to you)?

@AbbieNormal no surprise there. pretty much everything is easier to pick up than lisp. has been the case for decades.

people can't get past the syntax.

@AbbieNormal if you want to measure success in terms of userbase, you're looking at the wrong technology. practically no one uses lisp, any variant of lisp. not even the commercial ones with licenses that are in the 4 or 5 digit range.

@AbbieNormal what is your measure of success when it comes to guile? clearly you have one.

@AbbieNormal that doesn't answer the question.

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@AbbieNormal i don’t think i’ve ever used a scheme interpreter where the experience was a lot better. several common lisp runtimes do pretty good here, but i don’t think i’ve seen a good scheme one.

@AbbieNormal ,apropos help points to (ice-9 session), and that defines the (help) function. i don’t know where it is on your system, but it should be somewhere like /usr/share/guile/3.0/ice-9/session.scm

@AbbieNormal i don’t know. it doesn’t look as if (help) is documented in the manual at all. it’s certainly not at https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Procedure-Index.html#Procedure-Index_fn_letter-H

@AbbieNormal markdown didn’t render properly there.

@AbbieNormal also, the commands in the “Help commands” section of the manual are the ones that start with a comma, like ,statistics or ,compile.

@AbbieNormal i didn’t look at the manual, but the difference between (help cons) and (help “cons”)is documented in the output of(help): scheme@(guile-user)> (help) Usage: (help NAME) gives documentation about objects named NAME (a symbol) (help REGEXP) ditto for objects with names matching REGEXP (a string) (help 'NAME) gives documentation for NAME, even if it is not an object (help ,EXPR) gives documentation for object returned by EXPR (help (my module)) gives module commentary for(my module)’

       (help) gives this text

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@feld @Zeny well, that’s language for you. i don’t think anyone will go around calling this year the last of the 10s, though.

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